Hello! Вопрос AS'ов в биллинговой процедуре RIPE. Eamonn предлагает придумать альтернативу текущему скорингу AS'ов и заслать для обсуждения в ncc-services-wg@ripe.net ----- Forwarded message from Eamonn McGuinness ----- Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:50:05 +0200 From: Eamonn McGuinness To: "George L. Yermulnik" Cc: Andrey Blochintsev , "Peter V. Metalnikov" , Galina Davydenko , Igor Khasilev , Mitrofanov Maxim , Eugene N Drachenko Subject: Re: Fwd: RIPE NCC Managing Director's e-mail to UANOG to clarify how RIPE NCC policies are developed User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Hi George, On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 01:06:28PM +0300, George L. Yermulnik wrote:

Hello!

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 at 11:44:57 (+0200), Eamonn McGuinness wrote:

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Thank you for participating at last week's RIPE NCC LIR Training course. During our course there was a discussion about Provider Independent (PI) requests and routing consequences as well as how the RIPE NCC charges its members. I am forwarding you an e-mail sent by our Managing Director to the UANOG mailing list a few weeks ago. This

Thanx. Guess all of us are subscribed to UANOG mailing list =)

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is to remind members that it is essential to hear feedback if current policies or procedures are unfair and if you wish to see changes.

As I can see the main problem for LIR's (at least hear in Kiev) with RIPE Billing Procedure is that it takes into accont all of AS Numbers registered by the LIR for its customers disregarding if the customer has gone to an other LIR. So the LIR has to pay for "other LIR's" Customer's ASN.

During the discussion you said it's possible to "transfer" Customer's ASN to another LIR if they agree to "accept" it. But what if they don't? The LIR _has_ to continue paying for "other LIR's" Customer's ASN =(

That is correct. This is why you need to generate support to expose this and suggest an alternative. This can be done on the UANOG list and consensus be sent to the NCC Services Working Group mailing list or back to Axel. Was there much discussion on UANOG since Axel's e-mail ? Ciao, Eamonn McGuinness RIPE NCC ----- End forwarded message ----- -- George L. Yermulnik [YZ-RIPE] =================================================================== uanog mailing list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@uanog.kiev.ua with "unsubscribe uanog" in the body of the message