Dear Colleagues,
The RIPE NCC has recently received questions about migrating customers with
PI and AS Number assignments from one LIR to another.
The purpose of the sections below is to clarify this procedure and to
remind RIPE NCC Members that the RIPE NCC does not make or change policies.
The RIPE NCC follows the decisions and policies set by the community
through participation in RIPE Working Groups and RIPE mailing lists.
PROVIDER INDEPENDENT (PI) ADDRESS SPACE & AUTONOMOUS SYSTEM (AS) NUMBER
RECORDS:
There is no need to renumber from one PI address block to another block of
the same size when migrating a customer from one LIR to another.
Additionally, there is no need to renumber AS Numbers.
When migrating a customer from one LIR to another they should always be
able to keep the same PI address block.
Currently it is not possible for the LIR to "return" the PI address space
or AS Number while it is still in use by a customer. Only the user of the
PI address space or AS Number can initiate its return.
You can approach
Hello! On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 at 11:22:12 (+0200), Axel Pawlik wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The RIPE NCC has recently received questions about migrating customers with PI and AS Number assignments from one LIR to another. The purpose of the sections below is to clarify this procedure and to remind RIPE NCC Members that the RIPE NCC does not make or change policies. The RIPE NCC follows the decisions and policies set by the community through participation in RIPE Working Groups and RIPE mailing lists.
PROVIDER INDEPENDENT (PI) ADDRESS SPACE & AUTONOMOUS SYSTEM (AS) NUMBER RECORDS:
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THE RIPE NCC CHARGING SCHEME: The RIPE NCC 2004 Charging Scheme was approved by the RIPE NCC Members at the General Meeting, September 2003. More information about this meeting is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/gm/gm2003/highlights.html
RIPE NCC General Meetings are open to all RIPE NCC Members. At the General Meetings, RIPE NCC Members can vote on the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme for the following year. This ensures that the RIPE NCC uses a Charging Scheme approved by its members.
Please note that the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme disregards PI assignments.
Got one more question on this topic: does RIPE NCC Charging Scheme takes into acoount a number of Autonomous System Numbers?
The RIPE NCC Charging Scheme uses a billing score algorithm to determine billing categories. The algorithm can be modified according to RIPE NCC Members' feedback. RIPE NCC Members can give their feedback to the RIPE NCC Management. They can also give their feedback at RIPE NCC General Meetings.
-- George L. Yermulnik [YZ-RIPE] =================================================================== uanog mailing list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@uanog.kiev.ua with "unsubscribe uanog" in the body of the message
Hi George, (начитавшись док-тов)
Please note that the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme disregards PI assignments.
Got one more question on this topic: does RIPE NCC Charging Scheme takes into acoount a number of Autonomous System Numbers?
Charging Scheme 2004 есть тут: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-293.pdf там написано, как ASNы превращаются в очки. Про IP тоже сказано, но не написано, PA или PI. К счастью, об этом отчечено выше :) Для сравнения, в Charging Scheme 2003: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-265.txt а также в предыдущие годы, ASN не влияли на количество очков. В качестве истории: из ripe-143 и ripe-134 видно, что до 1997-го года LIRы сами назначали себе категорию, потом захотели, чтобы она вычислялась в зависимости от полученных ресурсов. Сама идея делить плату не поровну между LIRами, а разделить их на категории (на то время самоназначаемые) описана в ripe-084 в 1993-м, сразу после создания RIPE NCC. -- Mike =================================================================== uanog mailing list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@uanog.kiev.ua with "unsubscribe uanog" in the body of the message
Hi!
(начитавшись док-тов)
Sorry, с адресом промахнулся. Все ранеесказанное является моими личными умозаключениями, которые, к сожалению, могут не совпадать с настоящим положением вещей. -- Mike =================================================================== uanog mailing list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@uanog.kiev.ua with "unsubscribe uanog" in the body of the message
Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 19:18:29, mike wrote about "Re: [uanog] NCC Charging Scheme":
Sorry, с адресом промахнулся. Все ранеесказанное является моими личными умозаключениями, которые, к сожалению, могут не совпадать с настоящим положением вещей.
Эта... местный народ, вы ж сегодня на райповке были. Неужели там этот вопрос не подымался? -netch- =================================================================== uanog mailing list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@uanog.kiev.ua with "unsubscribe uanog" in the body of the message
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 08:20:16PM +0300, Valentin Nechayev wrote:
Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 19:18:29, mike wrote about "Re: [uanog] NCC Charging Scheme":
Sorry, с адресом промахнулся. Все ранеесказанное является моими личными умозаключениями, которые, к сожалению, могут не совпадать с настоящим положением вещей.
Эта... местный народ, вы ж сегодня на райповке были. Неужели там этот вопрос не подымался?
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Dear George, The current Billing Scheme does take AS numbers into account. You may see the detailed information on how it is calculated via the following document link: RIPE NCC Billing Procedure and Fee Schedule 2004 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/billing-2004.html Should you require more detailed information regarding this issue then you could contact our Finance department directly via billing@ripe.net. -- Regards, Rabia Gawish RIPE NCC Hostmaster On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:11:53 +0300, George L. Yermulnik wrote:
Hello!
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 at 11:22:12 (+0200), Axel Pawlik wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The RIPE NCC has recently received questions about migrating customers with PI and AS Number assignments from one LIR to another. The purpose of the sections below is to clarify this procedure and to remind RIPE NCC Members that the RIPE NCC does not make or change policies. The RIPE NCC follows the decisions and policies set by the community through participation in RIPE Working Groups and RIPE mailing lists.
PROVIDER INDEPENDENT (PI) ADDRESS SPACE & AUTONOMOUS SYSTEM (AS) NUMBER RECORDS:
[skipped]
THE RIPE NCC CHARGING SCHEME: The RIPE NCC 2004 Charging Scheme was approved by the RIPE NCC Members at the General Meeting, September 2003. More information about this meeting is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/gm/gm2003/highlights.html
RIPE NCC General Meetings are open to all RIPE NCC Members. At the General Meetings, RIPE NCC Members can vote on the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme for the following year. This ensures that the RIPE NCC uses a Charging Scheme approved by its members.
Please note that the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme disregards PI assignments.
Got one more question on this topic: does RIPE NCC Charging Scheme takes into acoount a number of Autonomous System Numbers?
The RIPE NCC Charging Scheme uses a billing score algorithm to determine billing categories. The algorithm can be modified according to RIPE NCC Members' feedback. RIPE NCC Members can give their feedback to the RIPE NCC Management. They can also give their feedback at RIPE NCC General Meetings.
-- George L. Yermulnik [YZ-RIPE]
participants (6)
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Axel Pawlik -
George L. Yermulnik -
Mike Petuschak -
RIPE NCC Staff -
Valentin Nechayev -
Vladimir A. Podgorny