[uanog] Re: Fwd: Huawei Routers in the Core

07.07.06, Pavel Narozhnyy написал(а):

Привет,

Я бы на Вашем месте брал на тест, перед тем как принимать решение. Человек, который писал сообщение, явно не инженер и далек от.

Не, вы все ничего не поняли ;-)) Не собираюсь я ничего покупать от Хуавея. Просто попалось на глаза, решил запостить.

Ну и в данном списке есть люди, которые могут выдать на гора свое компетентное мнение.

Вот это и хотелось спровоцировать ;-)

Насчет суппорта - лапша. Человек явно хуевеевского суппорта в глаза не видел.

On 7/7/06, Dmitry Cherkasov wrote:

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Может, кому-то будет интересно: впечатления народа о Хуавее. Так получается, что вполне достойное железо..

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kim Onnel Date: 06.07.2006 11:16 Subject: Re: Huawei Routers in the Core To: NANOG list < nanog@nanog.org>

Hi,

First, thanks goes to all that has replied, I was asked by people to summarize the replies i got so far on the topic, so here it goes:

1- Someone said that they are doing very well in the IPTV and multicast, but they are not in the US.

2- Another one said: Huawei's data-comm products have been already deployed widely in Asia, Europe and South America, and that Huawei's routers have very good compability with Cisco's.(personal experience) There are no problems in BGP/MPLS/PIM interconnection with Cisco. OSPF/ISIS/policy based routing/ACL,MIB,Password/VPN... These are basic requirement for core router, all supported, except for properietry Cisco protocols like EIGRP and TACACS.

3- In Asian markets, Huawei is selling the Avici TSR with the Huawei name/logo.

4- I've seen your post about Huawei NE/AR routers in cisco-nsp list a while ago. Actually I was not subscribed, just a friend of mine sent me a link.

We are working with Huawei for a couple of years now and I have seen most of their datacomm boxes. Now we are running two NE80e's as our ASBR and still have two more NE40's from previous instalation. I'm afraid I cannot give you any comparison tables (because I never had time to make them), but if you have questions, I'm open to discussion.

5- I have to say that last two years with them had been a great experience for me. I'm not saying, that it had been without any problems and complications, but what is really amazing is their advance.

Two years ago, they were cheap alternative with quite good performance, sometimes bad software and the lack of features. Nowdays with NE40/80e series, they are pretty good and I'm really wondering, what they can do in another year.

6- Detailed opinion:

A) Performance: - even 3-4years old NE40 had forwarding rate of 6Mpps per board - their combination of ASIC and NP seems to be a good way - we had some problems with BGP, later resolved. - same with full BGP tables, cards had to be set into LARGE_FIB mode which had impact on overall performance - all these problems seem to be solved now on NE40/80E series - I'm using 10xGE boards and also some 10GE for testing (with S8505 switch)

B) OS - they call it VRP, same on all boxes, just minor + feature differences - online patch support possibility, never used - good stability, no fault

C) Support - Cisco gave us lame support compared to Huawei. - very good cooperation with local support and even with R&D in case of need

D) New features - it's hard to beat cisco in a feature field, but there are just few that I'm missing now (and most of them is with switch, not router)

E) Comparing with cisco... hmm... 8/10 for technology, but 20/10 for cooperation and their potential for the future

7) I am about to order a number of Huawei NE40's. I just got back from a trip to Huawei headquarters in Shenzen, China. My testing has shown that they really compete well against the equivalent Cisco. The CLI is a bit wierd to start with, but you get used to it. We also use AR18's and AR28's as CPE for our customers. We have some Huawei 8500, 6500 and 5600 switches powering our metro Ethernet service. They are much better than 6500, but still need to develop more feature cards.

8) Yes Huawei has a very wide range of routers and in high end routers they are much cheaper than cisco and provide excellent support to their customers. I myself have worked on NE40E series and its really a competetive product.

9) Their metro optical stuff is well made and works like a champ, but we dont use their routers

Thats all i got, pretty encouraging, if anyone thinks otherwise, please enlighten me.

On 7/3/06, Kim Onnel < karim.adel@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hello,

We have been looking at Huawei line of routers recently and i was kind of

surprised to see they have Core stuff, that are able to handle Gigs of traffic and MPLS, i cant seem to find anyone around that have used any of these, i wonder if anyone here has, i'd love to hear what he/she has to say, positive or negative feedback.

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Offline messages are welcomed.

Thanks,

Kim

-- Dmitry Cherkasov

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